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wakingrufus
So, here is an idea i have been thinking about for awhile:
what about splitting the Etc side into two forums.
one would be for strictly on-topic discussion, ie books, movies, games, politics, news, and such
the other would be for offtopic randomness, ie BIG FUCKING SOMB PARTY, compulsive posting topic, and such

i think this would smooth out the board experience, since we would leave the off-topic board more or less unmoderated, while focusing on the on topic board, keeping it focused and enjoyable for those who like such discussions.

let your thoughts be known here
Slap Nutz
no

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wakingrufus
psh, you were for this before.
put your vote where your mouth is :-p
Slap Nutz
did you really have to warn me for that

and i was not for this ftr

ftr
wakingrufus
to be consistent, yes. anytime i have to edit a post to add spoil tags, i warn the poster
Slap Nutz
wait you wouldnt moderate the new board?

i change my vote

im gonna blast music in frustration

np: harvey milk - life...the best game in town

sweet dreams roofs
wakingrufus
QUOTE (Slap Nutz @ Nov 17 2008, 09:51 PM) *
wait you wouldnt moderate the new board?

i change my vote

im gonna blast music in frustration

np: harvey

the exact rules are yet to be determined, but it would be less moderated than the ETC board is currently.
Slap Nutz
i want to go back to be able to post about fucking black girl 15yo pussy
theremin
not completely sure how this will help given the fact that decreasing the pleasure of the boarding experience is the main goal of......certain individuals.

(not that I'm against 15 year old black pussy, ftr).
Slap Nutz
my main goal in life is to post what i want

i only get outraged at the somb b/c of it's stick-up-its-ass moderation lately
simakos
so how would you actually define the separate etc forums specifically?

i'm holding on to my vote for a while.
Slap Nutz
squirts, hot logs, indie cock, all i care about.
simakos
do you still think i am trying to be your dad?
Montana
Sausage you're crazy right now. You're having internet anxiety with your roommate. Think about that. I used to get pretty crazy. I'd run or work out to work it off. Sometimes It didn't go as planned and the brimming testosterone from the workout caused me to punch people that mildly irritated me, but mostly it worked ok.
Slap Nutz
i havent been able to do anything b/c i've locked myself in my room for the last three days to work on homework and i'm going crazy in here

but ftr i keep a pretty active social life on the weekends

ask rufus

QUOTE (simakos @ Nov 17 2008, 10:05 PM) *
do you still think i am trying to be your dad?

idk, are you
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chukwu
boys will be boys
Damo Suzuki
Considering that Et Cetera was under the "Anything Goes" heading, I don't see why you need to split rolling media threads from the bulk of random etc threads.

That's all it would be basically. A forum for Now gaming, Now Reading, and whathaveyou. And another forum for 99.0% of the other etc threads.

Seems pointless, but w/e.
Duff.
I was against this last time too. Etc interesting because it's a mixed bag of random stuff. I'll get over not being able to say "fuck" in the subject line.
wakingrufus
QUOTE (Damo Suzuki @ Nov 18 2008, 04:14 AM) *
Considering that Et Cetera was under the "Anything Goes" heading, I don't see why you need to split rolling media threads from the bulk of random etc threads.

That's all it would be basically. A forum for Now gaming, Now Reading, and whathaveyou. And another forum for 99.0% of the other etc threads.

Seems pointless, but w/e.

it would be more than that. glancing at the front page, id say the divide would be about half and half. basically any thread with a concrete discussion topic would be "on topic" and anything meta or crazy things would be off-topic
ParticleHustler
I voted no because I think it's pretty obvious what the problem is and the simpler solution is to use the mod powers in this forum to get things back under control, rather than devise a way to allow the ridiculousness to continue, thereby fragmenting the community even further. The random stuff is part of the etc. forum and I wouldn't want to see it moved. There's just an obvious abuse issue going on right now that's thrown the on-topic/random crap ratio off by a good bit.
SkinnyHips
one vote for no please. a vote for yes means the terrorists have finally won.

Cinnamon Pooter
I can't believe 11 people voted yes for this idea. Sorry rufus but I hate it.
Mitchell
Do it, will kill two birds with one stone.
KaBoom21
Hasn't it already been done?

I mean, it seems the only ones whining about the ETC forum are the anti-sports/anti-shorts/video game/comic book/ need to get out of the house and get some fresh air and exercise crowd* who found a much better place at LOPP.

(note: happy, contented and generally agreeable pants-only wearing gamers and comic book fans excluded, of course)
ParticleHustler
QUOTE (Mitchell @ Nov 18 2008, 08:55 AM) *
Do it, will kill two birds with one stone.


You really think so? Seems to me that the influx of random crap topics recently (or bumping of old ones) is tied directly to having an audience to play to. In other words, if you segregate that stuff and take away most of the audience for the person/people who are doing it, then they are less likely to do it in the new forum - even though that's the point of that forum. Eventually they will migrate back to the main etc. forum to gain an audience for their idiocy, and the mods will have the same problem they have now. Except we'll have a second, mostly useless forum that takes some decent off-topic/random threads out of the main forum, making it less likely people will see them and/or participate. I've been on boards where they've made sub-forums out of specific topics to lessen the off-topic forum's load, and it does nothing but pretty much kill the interest in the sub-topics, other than for a couple of hardcore people. I am not in favor of that.
Agrimorfee
Both sides bringing up some good points. I'm sitting on the fence for now, too.
Waylon
I don't understand how enforcing the two etc. board rules would be any different than purging regular etc. topics from off-topic conversations.

Also, it's probably impossible to prevent threadjacks.
Hero
QUOTE (wakingrufus @ Nov 17 2008, 10:40 PM) *
So, here is an idea i have been thinking about for awhile:
what about splitting the Etc side into two forums.
one would be for strictly on-topic discussion, ie books, movies, games, politics, news, and such
the other would be for offtopic randomness, ie BIG FUCKING SOMB PARTY, compulsive posting topic, and such

i think this would smooth out the board experience, since we would leave the off-topic board more or less unmoderated, while focusing on the on topic board, keeping it focused and enjoyable for those who like such discussions.

let your thoughts be known here


i like the idea of splitting the board, i've thought about it for some time. The only problem is splitting it into too many sections.
But i do like the idea of media (books, tv, movies, games) and sports being separated from the rest

good idea
ParticleHustler
Maybe I'm seeing the issue here more black and white than others because I don't live in Chicago, don't know any of you personally so I don't have the human element involved, have only been on the periphery of the LOPP thing (I still have a very vague idea of who/what is involved, especially with all of the user name changes, etc.), and frankly can't tell a sausage from a chrono from a nick from 95% of the other posters on this board.

So, in that context, it seems fairly obvious what the issue is; the bigger issue seems to be with the willingness to actually moderate this forum. The idea of creating a second forum designed specifically for the lawlessness isn't so much a cure for the problem (since, as I've posted above, I don't think it will solve a damn thing), but seems like more of an attempt to put off having to use the mod powers to do what needs to be done. But again, I don't have any personal relationships that color my opinions, so my guess is my thinking is too objective for the reality of the situation, which is why this is even a question to begin with.
Agrimorfee
QUOTE (Hero @ Nov 18 2008, 10:24 AM) *
But i do like the idea of media (books, tv, movies, games) and sports being separated from the rest

good idea


Aye on that, at least, instead of adding multiple threads or searching for one mention of something out of a huge megathread.
Hero
this isnt that big of a deal, its just like splitting the Plug One from the Music Discussion

We will still have Etc, but there will be two parts for media/sports/politics from the randomness
b17yoe
Ban SlapNutz...problem solved.
ParticleHustler
QUOTE (Hero @ Nov 18 2008, 09:37 AM) *
this isnt that big of a deal, its just like splitting the Plug One from the Music Discussion

We will still have Etc, but there will be two parts for media/sports/politics from the randomness


There are a couple of issues with this.

One, you're turning the main etc. forum into the sub-forum, if you are just going to limit the forum to media/sports/politics. What about other current events, what about discussions of travel or weather or other topics that don't fit those cateogries, or just "what's your opinion of" some person/place/thing-type threads? Personally, I don't want to have to navigate between 2 different non-music forums to interact here, with different rules for what can be posted and not. It kiills the continuity of the forum and leads to less participation in one or more of the forums that is split up.

Second, you're searching for a solution to a problem that, outside of one or two people, doesn't really exist. Look at the active threads right now - if you take all of the ridiculousness and fold it into the compulsive posting thread where it should be, what's left? A general etc. forum with little or no issues. I'm telling you, trying to divide into sub-topics kills a community, and ends up being more mod work than just dealing with the obvious problem that has precipitated this thread.
6ome 9irl
VOTE NO!
KEEP THE STATUS QUO!
ANYTHING GOES!
Agrimorfee
Voted No. Particle Hustler brings up enough questions that it best just be left alone.
KaBoom21
QUOTE (ParticleHustler @ Nov 18 2008, 08:51 AM) *
It kiills the continuity of the forum and leads to less participation in one or more of the forums that is split up.

I'm telling you, trying to divide into sub-topics kills a community, and ends up being more mod work than just dealing with the obvious problem that has precipitated this thread.


PH is so OTM here.
6ome 9irl
The beauty of Somb was that it was has just two forums which made it better than most boards. One for the point of the radio show, music, and the other for all else.

Topic discussion isn't always serious or on-topic all throughout a thread. Those threads have their moments too. Threads are mixed. You're asking now for serious and non-serious threads. It's lunacy.
Hero
QUOTE (ParticleHustler @ Nov 18 2008, 10:51 AM) *
QUOTE (Hero @ Nov 18 2008, 09:37 AM) *
this isnt that big of a deal, its just like splitting the Plug One from the Music Discussion

We will still have Etc, but there will be two parts for media/sports/politics from the randomness


There are a couple of issues with this.

One, you're turning the main etc. forum into the sub-forum, if you are just going to limit the forum to media/sports/politics. What about other current events, what about discussions of travel or weather or other topics that don't fit those cateogries, or just "what's your opinion of" some person/place/thing-type threads? Personally, I don't want to have to navigate between 2 different non-music forums to interact here, with different rules for what can be posted and not. It kiills the continuity of the forum and leads to less participation in one or more of the forums that is split up.


i dont want to break the board up into serious vs. non serious. It would just be nice if we had something separated to make it easier to find certain threads that end up getting bumped to the 4th page. Even if we had a sports only sub-section, that would be nice.
6ome 9irl
BIG FUCKIN' SOMB PARTY and My Nipples Are Freezing and Bursting Through My Pajama Top really lose their effect when not mixed in with regular threads. It's the surprise.
Slackmo
As a hardcore "view new posts" boarder, I won't be affected either way.
elcorazon
QUOTE (Slackmo @ Nov 18 2008, 09:22 AM) *
As a hardcore "view new posts" boarder, I won't be affected either way.

this
Agrimorfee
QUOTE (Hero @ Nov 18 2008, 10:11 AM) *
i dont want to break the board up into serious vs. non serious. It would just be nice if we had something separated to make it easier to find certain threads that end up getting bumped to the 4th page. Even if we had a sports only sub-section, that would be nice.


I'm still with Hero on this. Let's say this as a hypothetical--->

3 Forums in ETC....
SPORTS, ENTERTAINMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE...

But make no other changes to the content guidelines that have recently been set forth. Also make these 3 forums not stringent to their themes, because it will cause more headaches policing where one type of thread should go than what we are already doing. Trolling I guess should be accepted as a fact of life, and strange crap will show up no matter if you divide up a board or not. But with this method, Mods won't have to monitor anything more than they have already, nobody has to worry about not being allowed to post something, and people interested in Sports and Entertainment can find their preferred topics more readily.

6ome 9irl
That really is the most hardcore style of board viewing.
6ome 9irl
QUOTE (Agriobamamorfee @ Nov 18 2008, 09:26 AM) *
I'm still with Hero on this. Let's say this as a hypothetical--->

3 Forums in ETC....
SPORTS, ENTERTAINMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE...

No no blah blah, then it becomes every other board with a zillion forums, breaking up the flow and togetherness of the people.
Agrimorfee
QUOTE (Some Girl @ Nov 18 2008, 10:27 AM) *
QUOTE (Agriobamamorfee @ Nov 18 2008, 09:26 AM) *
I'm still with Hero on this. Let's say this as a hypothetical--->

3 Forums in ETC....
SPORTS, ENTERTAINMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE...

No no blah blah, then it becomes every other board with a zillion forums, breaking up the flow and togetherness of the people.


NO... read it again...3 Forums.

Music side has 3 Forums-- Plug One, Sound Opinions, and Music Discussion ("everything else"). Nobody has a problem with that. What's wrong with running in a similar fashion on ETC.?
Hero
the fact is there are a lot of boarders who only participate in certain topics and have to search for them

politics doesnt interest me, but sports do. If politics happen to be its own subsection, it wouldnt bother me, cos i dont check them.
In the sports/wwe threads, there are a lot of sombies who only post in those threads.
So the effect of disrupting the board is overstated

6ome 9irl
QUOTE (Agriobamamorfee @ Nov 18 2008, 09:31 AM) *
NO... read it again...3 Forums.

3 TOO MANY
Mitchell
QUOTE (Hero @ Nov 18 2008, 04:31 PM) *
politics doesnt interest me


Terrible outlook.
Hero
QUOTE (Mitchell @ Nov 18 2008, 11:35 AM) *
QUOTE (Hero @ Nov 18 2008, 04:31 PM) *
politics doesnt interest me


Terrible outlook.


yeah, arguing with someone who doesnt agree with you for days and complaining about how terrible Bush is for 8years is much better dry.gif
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